Yesterday we attended our third meeting with officials and residents in 12 months at Catford Civic Centre. This time it was to sit in front of the alcohol licensing committee. This meeting was triggered due to a handful of ojections by local residents. It was great news for us, as the council saw in our favour and has awarded 88 Springbank Rd with an alcohol licence. At this moment in time we intend to be open in late spring and will give updates in due course.
A massive thanks to all the people who emailed name suggestions for the pub, the response was phenomenal. We have managed to get the short list down to three and the name will be announced soon.
That’s all for now folks, please sit tight for more news.
I am sure by now many of you know that following a lengthy planning phase Lewisham Council have finally agreed to grant achange of use to 88 Springbank Rd. When we started this journey at the beginning of last year we had no idea it would take so long. We were given poor advice on the pre-planning application, much of which contradicted what Lewisham planning department ultimately recommended and added months to the application. We were also hindered by a handful of local objections that led to the application being sent to a committee panel, again this added substantial time. While it has felt like an endurance, it hasn’t been all doom and gloom. Lots of really positive things came out of the process, one being the immense feedback from local residents. The feedback has galvanised our belief that Sprinkbank Rd is an ideal place for this pub. With that we thank all the people who sent supporting letters to both Lewisham planning department and the local councillors. I would also like to say a special thanks to Peter from Robinson Escott Planning and the two residents from Springbank Rd who turned up uninvited, wanting to speak in support of the application – Thank you Jen and Paddy.
A few people have been in touch to ask what happens next. We have applied to Lewisham Council for an alcohol license, this should take no more than a few weeks. Once this has been granted the build begins, a lot of work needs doing and we expect this will take about four months. All being well the pub should be open by late spring, with the brewery coming later in 2019.
Finally, we are looking for a name, it has always been our intention for the community to get involved in naming the pub and some of the beers too. I have been inundated with suggestions from the public, but you still have time to send in your suggestions. If you have an idea for a name, please get in touch – email@example.com. The deadline for suggestions is Dec 31.
Thanks for stopping by and we look forward to giving regular updates.
Math and Emma.
At the start of December we submitted our application to change the use of the ground floor shop at 88 Springbank Road into a micro-pub.
You can view our application below. Local residents who would like to support our application have until the end of today (17th Jan) to log on to the Lewisham planning portal and leave feedback. Thanks for your continued support.
Math and Emma.
It has been a while since the last update. Looking at the shop, you’d think work had drawn to a halt. In fact we have been very busy behind the scenes.
We are now officially in the planning phase, this had taken longer than anticipated due to concerns about internal walls. This has now been resolved and the plans will shortly be available for the public to view.
A few weeks back local MP Vicky Foxcroft invited Emma and I up to Westminster to talk about the pub and regeneration of Springbank Road. It was the first time that either of us had been inside the Palace of Westminster, Vicky was kind enough to take us on a little tour, which was an absolute delight. Vicky has agreed that Springbank is in need of regeneration and that it would benefit with more businesses.
Residents and Councillors.
We took the decision to invite some of the neighbours in to the shop, it was an opportunity to introduce ourselves, explain our plans and listen to any concerns.
Over the past few weeks we have spoken to various Councillors from Lewisham.
It is no secret that Springbank Road is in need of new amenities and that Hither Green could do with alternative social options. With that in mind, support has been very good.
The Archibald Corbett Society.
Emma and I were invited to the Archibald Corbett Society’s AGM to give a brief talk. If you are not aware of who Archibald Corbett was or his legacy, then I recommend that you have a look at this website. Archibald Corbett built the estate between 1885 and 1911. He was keen to promote healthy living and was a committed temperance reformer, therefore he insisted on an embargo on the sale of alcohol.
With the knowledge that there has never been a pub on the estate, we felt it would be in the best interest for us to meet with the society and make our intentions clear.
Planning is laborious, hopefully next time there will be some more tangible news.
Math and Emma.
Planning and Building Regulations.
88 Springbank Road has over 100 years of history and it shows. The earliest records I could find show it as a tobacconist, it has also been a cab office and more recently an investment broker. I would love to hear from anyone who has historic knowledge of 88 Springbank. I have spent many hours trawling through online copies of Kelly’s directory, but thus far it has revealed very little. In fact the earliest record i could find -1917- there was no listing at all. I can only guess that they had popped out for a pint of milk.
Phase #1, planning and building regulations. Before we can start the fun stuff of actually building a pub we need Lewisham Council to approve our application to change the usage. At the moment the building has what they call an A2 -professional services- usage and we need to get that changed to an A4 -drinking establishment- usage. For this there is a plethora of red tape as we plan to bring walls down and put walls up. We need to make sure that fire safety and environmental health regulations are met and to show that we plan to run a responsible establishment. Last week we met and spoke with various architects to discus plans and we will be making a decision in the next couple of days.
I’ve popped in a few pics so you can see what the place looks like now.
If you have any questions or concerns then please do not hesitate to get in touch firstname.lastname@example.org.
Let me start by saying thanks to all the people who stopped by to say hi. It was nice to get such a warm welcome from both beer lovers and those who just wanted to wish us good luck.
The day didn’t get off to a perfect start. I’d filled a brand new fridge on Friday to ensure that we had lots of cold beers for Saturday. I got a call at 0600 on Saturday to say that our brand new fridge was not cold, worse than that it had slightly warmed the drinks. There I was at 0730 in the morning, on my hands and knees trying to fix a fridge that unbeknown to me was beyond repair. After making calls – firstly to an engineer and then to retailers of commercial fridges – I abandoned any hope of either fixing it or getting a suitable one. We decided to nip round to Emmaus Charity shop on Lee High Road and get a second hand one. This episode frustratingly put us behind by at least a couple of hours. Emma managed to get round with her mum and set the stall up, while I wrote and printed the menus off at home. We eventually managed to get the kegs on by 1330 and the rest of the stock eventually arrived by about 1400. We had planned to have chalkboards, but time got the best of us and they remained unused. A super massive big thank you to Emma’s mum and dad, Bill and Judy who homed our broken fridge as well as running the beers around and working tirelessly on the day. I’m not exaggerating when I say we could not have done it without them.
So the afternoon itself? Once we were up and running things got better. Emma pulled her first pints and after a few lively ones, took to it like a duck to water. The Neck Oil was a hit and we pretty much sold out. We intend to do a few pop ups outside the pub in the weeks before opening.
The cat is now out of the bag as to where the pub will be – Springbank Rd in Hither Green. It was a delight to meet so many smiling and supportive locals. I have no doubt that we will meet many of you again. I’d like to say thanks to the people who got in touch through Facebook, offering ideas regarding the broken fridge in the morning and I extend those thanks to the people who have sent us good wishes.
So what happens next? I am meeting architects next week to discuss plans for the pub. I would like to upload some photos next week so you can see what the building looks like at the moment.
Thanks again to everyone who stopped by mathBREW on Saturday.
Math and Emma
It has been almost three weeks since the website launched and I have been super quiet. This week we finally got the good news that we have been waiting for. Terms are now agreed on a property, just a stones throw from Hither Green station. Next week the real hard work beings. We have lots of red tape and hoops to jump through before we can start the building work. First of all we need floor plans drawn up, there are walls to come down and walls to go up, the building really needs a lot of love. We need to satisfy the police, the fire brigade, the local licencing authority, environmental health and building regulations. They need to be confident that our pub isn’t going to burn down, become a drug den or that that we are not going to poison children. We also need to apply for a change of use for the building, it currency holds an A1, to operate as a pub we will need to get this changed to an A4. We also need to apply for a premises licence to sell alcohol.
I hope to upload some photos next week, you’ll get an idea of what we are starting from then.
So what about the pop up?
I guess we kind of soft launch today. We will be taking a fridge full of beers, a couple of kegs, a cask, some cider and some wine along to the Hither Green World Food and Craft Fayre. I have tried to include a little bit of everything, from Gose to Imperial Stout, from Pilsner to Barrel aged Barley Wine.
Its at Hither Green Clocktower, the address is Des Vignes Drive, SE13 1PA.
Hope to see you there.